Inverted hitch

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 12, 2019 at 15:28
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Hi I have just purchased a hilux 4x4 and was wondering why the factory does not recommend inverting the hitch. My camper tilts and what I don’t understand is my friend has a 4x2 hilux and it says you can invert the hitch but only for towing up to 2.25 tonnes rather than the standard 2.5 tonnes does this mean I can get away with inverting the hitch on my hilux ? My camper is only 1.5 tonnes surely this will not put a strain on the hitch ??
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Reply By: Member - ACD 1 - Tuesday, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:10

Tuesday, Feb 12, 2019 at 18:10
Johnny

Simple answer is you can do it! However, you must have the correctly rated tongue.

Google Toyota Towing Tongues and search the images and you will find examples of tongues that can and cant be used in both orientations.

You need to make sure that yours is one that can - or change it to one that can.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Feb 12, 2019 at 19:44

Tuesday, Feb 12, 2019 at 19:44
Hi Johnnykluger

We we purchased our Ultimate camper, I wanted an inverted hitch and to have it extended by 50mm so we could open the rear door fully on our Prado.

The simple answer was a 50mm, inverted hitch by Hayman Reese.


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Follow Up By: Johnnykluger - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:01

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:01
Stephen did you buy this directly from Hayman Reece ? I cannot find them anywhere?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 18:02

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 18:02
Hi Johnnykluger

I purchased it from a major towbar place in Adelaide that had them straight off the shelf

They had many types of Hayman Reese tounges in stock, from the standard type to the extended, both in normal and inverted.


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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Feb 15, 2019 at 08:44

Friday, Feb 15, 2019 at 08:44
I also have a Prado & would be very nervous about using a longer hitch in the original cast receiver as these have been known to break releasing both the hitch & chains attachment point.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:19

Friday, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:19
Who would design a hitch where any failure in the tongue releases both the trailer and the chains??

I can't see where that would be meet any legal requirement. I wouldn't buy any towbar that didn't have a secure chain connection welded to the main beam of the towbar.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Feb 15, 2019 at 17:54

Friday, Feb 15, 2019 at 17:54
It has a Toyota logo cast into it so I would assume Toyota.
It also voids any warranty or claim against Toyota by using a non-genuine hitch as above.
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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Saturday, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:15

Saturday, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:15
As pointed out by shaker, there have been instances of the genuine Toyota tow bar hitch failing where after market weight distribution devices have been fitted.


Toyota did a recall to supposedly check the securing bolts where correct torqued, while they had the vehicle they removed any non genuine Toyota weight distribution hitches and fitted there own. They also place stickers on the hitches, inside the service book and on the vehicle indicating that only genuine Toyota weight distribution hitches etc are to be used.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:30

Saturday, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:30


This broke off road, fortunately when just entering a camp site, I believe he was using a non-genuine hitch but no WDH.
As you can see where it breaks also lets the chain attachment point go as well.
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Reply By: Ron N - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 00:41

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 00:41
Johnnykluger - All the towing information you need, is in the Toyota Towing Guide.

Page 6 explains how some Toyota towbar tongues can be inverted, and some can't.

The reason why some Toyota towbar tongues can't be inverted, is because it alters the tow hitch position, to the point where the load rating may be affected adversely.

Toyota Towing Guide

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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:23

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 08:23
It comes down to design. Alot of Toyota hitches are welded at 45 degrees to vertical. You should not invert these, but the ones like the photo above, welded to the square on a vertical orientation are ok to invert.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 20:10

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 20:10


You will see that the diagram is angle welded.
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Reply By: qldcamper - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:00

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:00
You can do anything you like, but if it causes an injury be prepaired to spend time in prison.
There are 2 sets of specs for hilux. The SR5 has a fancy rear step which requires a bar with the ball further away from the mounting holes. The SR it is ok to invert the tongue with reduced capacity, the SR5 you cant, so changing the tongue without engineering approval leaves you leagally liable. The legal specs are clearly printed on the lable and refers to the entire bar and mounting design, not just the tongue.

Yes many people just do it ignorantly and mostly get away with it, the specs are to cope with max weights so lighter trailers wont be a problem but without that piece of metal with it stamped on it any change is illegal. Have any sort of accident that is investigated it will be looked at especially by the insurance companies.

Phrase that comes to mind....

INVOLANTARY MANSLAUGHTER.
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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:36

Wednesday, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:36
If it is an angle welded one as dozer mentioned, inverting them makes the top weld near the bend to become directly in tension and that is also where the tongue will flex slightly. After heavy load and many flex cycles, the weld will start to crack and the tongue may leave the square tube. Not recmmended.
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Reply By: swampy - Thursday, Feb 14, 2019 at 22:33

Thursday, Feb 14, 2019 at 22:33
Hi
Makes me laugh how Toyota have missed there target for awhile now .

SR5 leather interior and 10 speakers over practical capacity .
This is not Toyota Japan its Toyota OZZY making bringing in these low spec vehicles .

Then again terrorists donot tow vans or plumbing equipment .

""Can it carry a f```n huge gun . "" is whats important here .

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