ExplorOz Traveller on a Lenovo Tab M10

Officeworks are selling the Lenovo Tab M10 HD 2nd Gen 10.1" 4GB RAM & 64GB eMMC Tablet for $249.
Before I purchase will this be a good match for outback travelling?
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Reply By: Member - Dick L - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 13:48

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 13:48
Had a Lenova once and swore never again.
Made in China.
Does not have a GPS according to Tech Specs. So no good for tracking.
Buy at own risk.
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Follow Up By: Dusta - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 18:07

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 18:07
curious what type of computer you are posting on.
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Reply By: Wizzbang - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 14:21

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 14:21
Thanks,
The Gen 2 spec has 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac dual-band WiFi, 2.4GHz, 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac dual-band WiFi, 5GHz, Bluetooth? 5.0, WiFi Direct, GPS/Beidou, A-GPS, FM Radio, GLONASS. So I thought that GPS was covered.
Regarding Chinese built, noted and understood. If I get two years out of it I'll be happy...
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Follow Up By: Member - Dick L - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 15:05

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 15:05
I may have been looking at wrong model re GPS
If your happy with it buy it
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 15:56

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 15:56
About 6 months ago I was looking at this device. What was being sold in Australia was the model without a GPS. Looks like the M10 Gen 2 has GPS. In respect of Lenovo products, I had an 8" Lenovo tab that had to be retired, as it wouldn't run the latest vesrion of EO Traveller. My main complaint was that it was extremely power hungry, necessitating a power off when you stopped and it took forever to reboot. Even continuously plugged into a high power usb port, it would be down to around 30% at the end of the day. In June, I purchased a basic Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 lite for $439 from Bing Lee (now $549 unfortunately). As you would expect from the specs it was much faster in every aspect, but the difference in power consumption was also substantial, it manages to stay fully charged without any need to shut down every time you stop.
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Reply By: Dusta - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 18:04

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 18:04
i run a lenovo tab m10 and now a tab m10+ . Both perfectly fine to run exploroz. never let me down.

For the money you can't find anything else close .


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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 18:33

Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 18:33
In System Requirements users are cautioned that Traveller is not a " lite" app. For that reason users are cautioned against low-end devices.

The Lenovo's RAM and storage sound ok, but the device can be that cheap only if it has cheap internals such as a very basic CPU and GPU or SOC.

I think you'll be disappointed if you go ahead.

EDIT: The brand is not necessarily unsuitable, but the particular device you're looking at seems too good to be true - for this application at least.
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Reply By: Wizzbang - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 00:02

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 00:02
Well I went ahead and purchased the Lenovo Tab M10 HD 2nd Gen 10.1" 4GB RAM & 64GB eMMC Tablet for $249 and installed the OziExplorer Software for Android Version 1.36. for $32.
I already have OziExplorer for the PC and many maps.
So far I have driven around Adelaide and everything is working fine. Clear maps and tracking information and no evidence that the system is slow or struggling. Early days but hopefully it lasts well past it's one year warranty.
Thanks to all who added comments, I'll see how I go when I head bush and really need what OziExplorer is designed for.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:24

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:24
Wizzbang,

You've short-sheeted us, my friend LOL.

When you created this thread ("ExplorOz Traveller on a Lenovo Tab M10") you asked if the device you proposed to buy was suitable for ExplorOz Traveller. Advice was given on that basis.

Now you say that you've installed OziExplorer and it's working fine - which is good - and that you're going to head bush with that. If that was always your intention, then had that been stated the advice given would have been different. Ozi and Traveller have different requirements - Ozi is considerably less demanding.

What happened to Traveller, or are you simply mixed up between the two?

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Follow Up By: RMD - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:41

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:41
Frank.
Seeing one starts with E and also has a T as the program start, the other starts with O and is what it is, I wondered the same thing. Being correct is important and things become clearer with accuracy. Sometimes, I get into trouble for trying to fix similar situations.
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Follow Up By: Wizzbang - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:57

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:57
Thanks Frank,
You are 100% correct I am mixed up between the two and I apologise for any confusion. I thought I was buying the same thing but having now read about ExplorOz Traveller I can see the difference.
Would you recommend I purchase the Traveller version and give that a go also?
I'll report back whether I am successful or not.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jim S1 - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:05

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:05
Yes, Frank, I also wondered if there had been a mix up. Not hard to do.

And Wizzbang, I can thoroughly recommend the Traveller and the EOTOPO maps. Maps are brilliant, and Traveller is excellent, and getting better. A bargain as far as I'm concerned.

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:55

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:55
Wizzbang,

You asked me, "Would you recommend I purchase the Traveller version and give that a go also?"

Traveller will cost you $60. Included in that is a lo resolution map of the whole of the country. It will allow the app to provide basic functionality but contains very limited detail.

If you want the full map detail you have to buy the EOTopo 2021 vector map pack for $50. No other maps work with Traveller, so you cannot dodge this.

I don't know if your device will run Traveller with the 2021 maps. Hence my caution in my earlier reply. For $110 it's a risk only you (or others who have used the app and maps on the same device) can assess so I am not prepared to recommend either way.

There is perhaps one other option. If your device proves unsuitable to run the EOTopo vector maps you can try the superseded EOTopo 2019 raster maps. They are listed in the EO Store at $95 but they are superseded in both content and performance and will not be updated. Additionally, I believe that support for those old maps in Traveller will eventually disappear, but right now they will work and will continue to work until support for them is removed in a new app version. I do not know if a date for that has been set.

If you wish to investigate this 2019 map option as a last resort you may wish to to discuss licensing and pricing issues with Michelle before committing to any experiments.

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Follow Up By: Wizzbang - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 14:03

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 14:03
Thanks a lot, you have been very helpful and I really appreciate your time and assistance. Happy travels. Phil/Wizzbang
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:40

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:40
That's a good price - the 2nd Gen is listed at $327 here in Officeworks in Perth, WA.
Has Android 10, 2.3GHz CPU processor, 4GB RAM and is a 10.1" tablet and has built in GPS and SD card slot. Perfectly acceptable specs for running ExplorOz Traveller.

It's got a lot better specs than the previous model Lenova TabM10 10.1 (1st Gen) which I see also on the Officeworks website is selling for $223 in Officeworks in Perth, WA. The specs on this one are not great and I would not recommend it if buying new there's better devices with more bang for buck out there. Especially the deal you just got on the 2nd Gen.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:07

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:07
Good to see some positive feed back to the OP Michelle.
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Follow Up By: Wizzbang - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:16

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 13:16
Thanks Michelle, Frank pointed out the difference between ExplorOz Traveller and OziExplorer Software for Android so I am yet to try using the Traveller software on the Lenovo device. What do you think my chances are for smooth operation?
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 15:21

Friday, Sep 10, 2021 at 15:21
Wizzbang - I have never used that device but I always check device specs using this website and it seems to tick all the boxes to me - see GSM Arena. I definately think at first glance the device seems too good to be too at that price - as I commented earlier that's a really good deal.
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Reply By: Wizzbang - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:55

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:55
I can report that the Lenovo Tab M10 HD 2nd Gen 10.1" 4GB RAM & 64GB eMMC Tablet is fully compatible with ExplorOz Traveller and the performance is acceptable.
My Lenovo has been running continuously since Friday and I have driven around 400km with some simple treks. 3D works fine, snail trails and logging work fine and I have had no crashes.
For the price ($457) I think it's a good match.
Tablet ($249), RAM X-Grip ($98), ExplorOz Traveller ($60) and EOTopo 2021 licence ($50) = $457
The RAM mount is superglued inside the Console Auxiliary Storage Box on my Prado 2021 VX so it can all be packed away out of sight when not used.
Setup Photo Attached for your interest.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jim S1 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:25

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:25
Looks like an excellent set up. Happy travels!!

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:08

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:08
Well done Wizzbang, that's a neat setup.

Sorry that earlier I could not in clear conscience give you a recommendation without positively knowing that it would work. I'm very pleased for you that it did - you have an awesome package now.

If your tablet supports it, you can also run Ozi, either in the background or in split screen mode if you want a different map. Might be a bit of a test for the tablet but worth trying - you can't hurt anything, it will just run slow or crash one of the apps if it's not happy.
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Follow Up By: Wizzbang - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 13:27

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 13:27
Thanks Frank, completely understand a recommendation was not forthcoming. I'll give Ozi a try and report back
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Follow Up By: Wizzbang - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 14:36

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 14:36
So I ran Ozi Explorer and ExplorOz Traveller in slip screen mode on the Lenovo Tab M10 without a problem. Both apps refreshed the maps smoothly although it was harder to view due to the reduced map size. I found it better to run one app full screen and then switch to the alternative when needed. I intend to use Ozi Explorer on my PC for planning and ExploreOz Traveller when on the road. The EOTopo maps are excellent.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 14:56

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 14:56
Purrrfect!

Did you know you can slide the screen splitter to give your preferred app more screen space?
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Follow Up By: Wizzbang - Thursday, Sep 16, 2021 at 15:14

Thursday, Sep 16, 2021 at 15:14
I do now ... pretty new to the Android operating system.
I have much to learn.
Would be nice to see some youtube videos on how people use ExplorOz Traveller while travelling.
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