Outback rentals

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 05:28
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My brother and I would like to rent a vehicle to join some other friends for a trip across the Simpson in July of next year. While there seem to be places that will rent a vehicle with a flag, UHF, spare wheels and snatch strap/shackles there doesn't seem to be much in the way of rentals for suitable outback camping equipment. My brother is coming from New Zealand and I'm coming from the UK so we can't bring much with us. Ideally we would like to minimise the amount of equipment we will have to buy for just this trip then abandon.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Mark
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Reply By: Malcom M - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 06:23

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 06:23
No idea regarding equipment hire but there are often a lot of international travellers selling up their gear (and vehicles) on Gumtree before leaving the country.
You might be able to intercept one near your point of entry...

www.gumtree.com.au

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Reply By: Member - Mark C (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 07:30

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 07:30
My brother in law from no hired a troops and did the Kimberly’s with us. It had pop top and came with all the camping gear with external kitchen and awning plus fridge inside. The complete package.
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Reply By: Member - peter_mcc - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 09:44

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 09:44
We met some people near Alice who had hired a Britz*Hilux and taken it across the Simpson. It came with all the camping gear.

Before you book anything make sure you check out the T&C's to make sure you can take it where you want to go. Some hire car companies have a reputation for not giving people their bonds back - I'd really suggest doing some research to make sure you're not signing yourself up to a nightmare.

* I think it was Britz... apologies if I've remembered that incorrectly!

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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Saturday, Sep 22, 2018 at 19:40

Saturday, Sep 22, 2018 at 19:40
Definitely check the T&C. Some places we have hired from will not permit more than 500m on UNSEALED road! They define a "road" as being tarred! FFS! The country is littered with good dirt roads, some are better than tarred roads I've driven on!

The 500m is to allow you to do a U-turn to get back to the "road".
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Thursday, Sep 27, 2018 at 08:05

Thursday, Sep 27, 2018 at 08:05
Indeed, hire companies do not want their vehicles off unsealed roads. So you have to hire a 4WD vehicle which costs much more. Indeed, there are plenty of well-maintained dirt roads, but without a 4WD you can't drive on them. These policies really limit where you can go in a 2WD.
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:04

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:04
Thanks for the warnings, I'll check carefully
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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:20

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:20
Make sure you do a thorough web search on the company you choose. One company here in Oz is nothing short of a thieving bunch of B...... who rarely give bonds back and will take every cent they can from you. They have received media coverage about their crookedness. Just do your homework...it could save thousands and a lot of worry.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 15:12

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 15:12
A search of this site should reveal the name of that delightful austrailan 4WD hire company.
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Follow Up By: Member - gujimbo - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 18:18

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 18:18
Save the search , Mr V.R and his Australian 4WD Hire keep away from these ar@#)*@#s.
or for a good read have a look at Mr Vitali Roesch

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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 18:47

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 18:47
Thats the mongrel mob gujimbo...I couldn,t remember their exact name.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 19:45

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 19:45
The barstard has probably started up again, trading under a different name.....it really is sooooo wrong that this can happen.....sad
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Reply By: RMD - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 20:15

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 20:15
Mark
When hiring it may be a good idea to always ask WHO is the owner or boss of the company. If they falter with an answer, be suspicious. They are all in business to make money but some are crooks.
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 21:15

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 21:15
Hi Mark, so what sort of camping equipment have you found is omitted in the various rental options you've found so far that you need...do you mean to say they dont include cooking gear? Sleeping gear?
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:11

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:11
Hi Michelle

One place we looked at, "Complete Ute and Van Hire", do extras like a fridge, recovery equipment, extra spare, etc. What isn't there is the equipment for sleeping and cooking/eating.

So I was wondering if we could rent all of those sorts of things separately.

Cheers

Mark
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Monday, Oct 01, 2018 at 18:32

Monday, Oct 01, 2018 at 18:32
Hey Mark,
I wonder if Google gives you different results because you're in NZ but when I do a Google for "hire camping and cooking gear" I get a list of companies that offer exactly what you're after. See my search results here - search results
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2018 at 06:38

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2018 at 06:38
Thanks. That search gave me loads of camping companies! But all for the UK! But good to know that the Oz companies exist tho.

I'll see what I can do to get google to think Oz.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Tuesday, Oct 02, 2018 at 13:38

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2018 at 13:38
Ah, I thought it might have kept the same results. In fact, I notice the results are also targetted to me in Perth. So try putting in the name of the area where you want to hire from and use a search term like "hire camping and cooking gear sydney", that should work. BTW, Perth has a direct flight from the UK now on the Dreamliner ;) if you want to come and catch up after all these years!!!

Here's ones from Sydney I've found - direct links for your convenience ;)

Option 1 (4wd hire with all the gear)

Option 2

Option 3

Option 4

Option 5 (looks good for what you want with gear)

Let me know if you want more.


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Reply By: Member - peter g28 - Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 22:37

Thursday, Sep 20, 2018 at 22:37
There are plenty of 4wd hire companies, but when you look at the fine print of their policy...they don't want the 4wd to go "off Road"...WTF..The one company I have used that allow their 4wd vehicles off road are "Britz"..but you will be paying and "arm and Leg" for the privilege, they have several models of 4wd with camping facilities. in getting the vehicle with all the items you needs will be a bit costl. It maybe best to get your friends to loan you extras, ie portable UHF, recovery gear, sand flags etc.
The Britz 4wd's come with the camping gear and minimal recovery gear...so it would be best to check their Britz web site for details.
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Reply By: nickb - Friday, Sep 21, 2018 at 01:18

Friday, Sep 21, 2018 at 01:18
Google “Redsands”, they seem to have some nicely kitted out 4x4s. No other info, just seen a few around and they look great!
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:03

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:03
The Redsands vehicals look great! Shame they don't have a few more depots.
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Reply By: Stuart P1 - Friday, Sep 21, 2018 at 07:43

Friday, Sep 21, 2018 at 07:43
Hi nzjourneyman, I have a friend in NZ who has traveled all over this land and he has experience hiring and owning 4wd vehicles in Australia. Drop him an email and he can offer some advice. nzrees@yahoo.com
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:12

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:12
Thanks! I will do that
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Reply By: Candace S. - Saturday, Sep 22, 2018 at 15:41

Saturday, Sep 22, 2018 at 15:41
Mark,

I've twice hired 4WD's from Britz in Australia. In 2008 it was one of their Troopy-based Bushcampers (RIP). And this year their Scout, which is a Mercedes Sprinter 4WD van. The latter was fine for the tracks I did (except for one...), but I wouldn't tackle the Simpson in it!

I prefer a vehicle I can sleep inside, as it is so much easier plus it's the mode I'm used to traveling in.

Both of those vehicles seemed to have a very complete camping kit. Quite frankly, a lot of it I never used. And the company offers other items you can hire during your trip. I'm curious which companies you have looked at? Maybe the ones that cater more to the mining business than to tourists, thus the lack of camping gear?

My experience with Britz has been good. I think they really want you to take the vehicle out and explore. Whoever you hire from, be sure you understand ahead of time where you may or may not take the vehicle. (All these hire companies have GPS trackers on their vehicles.) You may need written permission for certain areas or tracks.

Please note that I had trouble-free hires and no problems getting my bond back because I read their T&C carefully, followed their rules, and bought extra insurance coverage. IMHO, most of the online griping you see is from people who did few or none of the above. Then when they lose part or all of their bond, they are upset.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Monday, Sep 24, 2018 at 20:25

Monday, Sep 24, 2018 at 20:25
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toyota-Landcruiser-Troopy/263953672983?hash=item3d74dd6b17:g:ODkAAOSwAnlbp3xO
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2018 at 08:11

Wednesday, Sep 26, 2018 at 08:11
Only $2750, what a bargain! :)

Oh wait, that's the current top bid. But that doesn't meet the reserve price.
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:17

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:17
Any idea what the reserve is?
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2018 at 08:31

Wednesday, Sep 26, 2018 at 08:31
It’s an option. I personally wouldn’t do what you are proposing, as if you break down it’s 12000 to be recovered.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:15

Thursday, Sep 27, 2018 at 10:15
Been trying to remember the company that Swiss friends used recently, but can't....
It was none of the "regulars". I have the thought that the owner was Swiss.
They picked up and dropped off the vehicle in Adelaide, drove it up the Oodnadatta Track, across the WAA line and back to Adelaide via Walkers Crossing and the Strz.
On the way they wrecked a tyre and replaced it at Oodnadatta. The company paid direct over the 'phone. Then 'swapped' it for a whizz bang to drive to Sydney where it was dropped off.
The vehicle was very well equipped as per their request. Roof top tent, 2 spares, even a sand flag.

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Follow Up By: heldus - Friday, Sep 28, 2018 at 05:22

Friday, Sep 28, 2018 at 05:22
The company where you are looking for is
www.travelcar.com.au
our prefered car hire company in Australia.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: nzjourneyman - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:29

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:29
Hi Helga

Do you know if the vehicle came with a fridge and all the cooking gear needed?

Thanks

Mark
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 13:42

Sunday, Sep 30, 2018 at 13:42
Definitely came with a fridge. Not sure about cooking gear, but I think so.
I know they brought their own sleeping bags.
Give them a call. It appeared that they supplied whatever was requested.

Cheers,
Peter
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